Why do WWE events have a lot of stupid crowd chants ?

  • Welcome to "The New" Wrestling Smarks Forum!

    I see that you are not currently registered on our forum. It only takes a second, and you can even login with your Facebook! If you would like to register now, pease click here: Register

    Once registered please introduce yourself in our introduction thread which can be found here: Introduction Board


jminter2698

The Artiste
Joined
Mar 6, 2018
Messages
193
Reaction score
67
Points
0
Age
32
Location
New York, United States
I don't mind the ones when they say "na na na na hey hey hey goodbye" when a wrestler gets fired or when they leave the company for good, those are actually funny. Or any time they repeat a wrestlers catchphrase when they say it because of its popularity : "If ya smell what The Rock - - and they always say IS COOKING before The Rock could finish or when he says the millions and millions (and the crowd does it back to him) of The Rock's fans etc. Those are what make the shows fun to watch, but I hate the ones that are irrelevant to what's happening in the ring like the CM Punk chants and whenever they shout "What" when a heel wrestler is trying to cut a serious promo, those are very annoying and really distract from what they're trying to say. Or every time you see a wrestler do a knife edged chop to an opponent, the crowd shouts "Woo" even though the wrestler doing it is not Ric Flair. "This is awesome" etc.
 

Unbesiegbar

Bird Man Bird Man Ahh Ahh
Joined
Dec 21, 2017
Messages
1,778
Reaction score
864
Points
113
Location
Crumbl Cookies
Favorite Wrestler
ajstyles
Favorite Wrestler
Hv5zY64
Favorite Wrestler
shawnmichaels
Favorite Wrestler
reymysterio
Favorite Wrestler
rvd
Favorite Wrestler
randyorton
Favorite Sports Team
rRE8Tx2
Favorite Sports Team
dJHMFjb
Woo I disagree on it's a tribute to Ric Flair. The rest I agree they get old. Also add you deserve it
 

Redboy123@

Banned
Joined
Jan 5, 2018
Messages
6,194
Reaction score
3,390
Points
113
I hate more the obnoxious "we are awesome" chant. Also the 'you deserve it' chant is the worst chant ever. So patronising and doesn't even make sense most of the time.

To answer the question to why there are stupid chants? Probably cuz the people chanting them are stupid.
 

Grievous 3D

Is Currently In Stasis
Banned
Joined
Sep 30, 2016
Messages
14,732
Reaction score
10,647
Points
0
Age
42
Location
Townsville, Queensland, Australia
Why do WWE events have a lot of stupid crowd chants ?
Because the crowds are more focused on making themselves
be heard rather than on the actual wrestling?

Because the crowds believe they need to be heard instead of
having their "real" reactions edited or muted by Kevin Dunn?

Because the crowds aren't invested in the actual wrestling
because there are no real reasons to be invested because
while the wrestling is great...the characters & story being told
are boring?

Because the crowds pay their money & can do whatever they
want?

I don't know...I live in the middle of nowhere in Australia and
I've never been to a wrestling show...and I don't think I even
could...but I'm not getting into that.
 
Last edited:

Redboy123@

Banned
Joined
Jan 5, 2018
Messages
6,194
Reaction score
3,390
Points
113
Because the crowds aren't invested in the actual wrestling
because there are no real reasons to be invested because
the while the wrestling is great...the characters & story being
told are boring?
Yeah but what about when a good story is being told but the fans aren't noticing because they are throwing around a beach ball.

Also if you are going to go to a wrestling show and not respect the wrestlers by not giving them a chance to perform, then why even bother go to the show?

But who is anybody to tell people how to watch wrestling. WWE should be better at displaying their product and manipulating the crowds emotions more so that this won't be a problem. Cuz the only party that benefits in any way is WWE 's ticket sales.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Grievous 3D

Grievous 3D

Is Currently In Stasis
Banned
Joined
Sep 30, 2016
Messages
14,732
Reaction score
10,647
Points
0
Age
42
Location
Townsville, Queensland, Australia
Yeah but what about when a good story is being told but the fans aren't noticing because they are throwing around a beach ball.
Example?

I mean the story can't be that good if the
beach balls are more over than the wrestlers.

Also if you are going to go to a wrestling show and not respect the wrestlers by not giving them a chance to perform, then why even bother go to the show?
Something to do? The same reason members sign up for
a wrestling forum and simply "troll" other members?

If I was in the front row for a RAW show & Roman Reigns
came out for a match...I would sit down, ignore the match
and read a book.

That would be my choice as a paying customer & my way
of making a statement.

ROMAN REIGNS IS BORING!!!

But who is anybody to tell people how to watch wrestling. WWE should be better at displaying their product and manipulating the crowds emotions more so that this won't be a problem. Cuz the only party that benefits in any way is WWE 's ticket sales.
I think the WWE main roster has forgotten how to make their audience care.

NXT does a great job...but then...less is more...every minute of every show
counts for something in NXT...unlike the main roster which simply has too
much product spread out over too much time.
 

Redboy123@

Banned
Joined
Jan 5, 2018
Messages
6,194
Reaction score
3,390
Points
113
Something to do? The same reason members sign up for
a wrestling forum and simply "troll" other members?
Well going to see the wrestling is something to do. And being a troll and having fun is understandable. But why is it at such a large scale? and at every show? Because its wrestling fans that are doing this not people who are just showing up for something to do.

I think the WWE main roster has forgotten how to make their audience care.
Yeah especially in a climate where it's so hard to get people to care about wrestling. Kayfabe is dead. People don't care anymore, apart from the people who view wrestling differently. WWE do get fans to care in different way from before.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Grievous 3D

Grievous 3D

Is Currently In Stasis
Banned
Joined
Sep 30, 2016
Messages
14,732
Reaction score
10,647
Points
0
Age
42
Location
Townsville, Queensland, Australia
Well going to see the wrestling is something to do. And being a troll and having fun is understandable. But why is it at such a large scale? and at every show? Because its wrestling fans that are doing this not people who are just showing up for something to do.
I don't know...I'm not educated enough to answer the question...

Perhaps its wrestling fans trying to make the statement of:

"Give us something to care about!"

I mean clearly no one cared about Brock/Roman at Wrestlemania 34...
& fans were leaving early at Backlash...and...I think you know where
I'm going with this & I'm just going to stop myself because no on needs
to hear it & I don't feel like discussing the subject.

Yeah especially in a climate where it's so hard to get people to care about wrestling. Kayfabe is dead. People don't care anymore, apart from the people who view wrestling differently. WWE do get fans to care in different way from before.
So...do people care or not? I'm confused...
 

Redboy123@

Banned
Joined
Jan 5, 2018
Messages
6,194
Reaction score
3,390
Points
113
So...do people care or not? I'm confused...
Most of the time people care and fans want to care. But sometimes fans don't care. Thats ok on Superstars, Main event and the occasional filler match on Raw. But it's happening in the main event.

People care in a different way they did before. Before fans wanted the babyface to win all the time. Now it more about the right guy has to win. Basically fans are smart and look at wrestling different. Therefore its harder to manipulate their emotions. Fans are interested in how it should happen, instead of just watching it happen
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Grievous 3D

Grievous 3D

Is Currently In Stasis
Banned
Joined
Sep 30, 2016
Messages
14,732
Reaction score
10,647
Points
0
Age
42
Location
Townsville, Queensland, Australia
Most of the time people care and fans want to care. But sometimes fans don't care. Thats ok on Superstars, Main event and the occasional filler match on Raw. But it's happening in the main event.

People care in a different way they did before. Before fans wanted the babyface to win all the time. Now it more about the right guy has to win. Basically fans are smart and look at wrestling different. Therefore its harder to manipulate their emotions.
Well...I would say the WWE has no idea how to book a proper
babyface anymore & they allow their heels to be too likeable.

I mean...the crowds have been booing the top "babyface" for 4
years & a guy who looks like a forest dwelling serial killer got
over as a babyface somehow...

The whole main roster is completely backwards as far as the
heel/face dynamic is concerned.
 

Redboy123@

Banned
Joined
Jan 5, 2018
Messages
6,194
Reaction score
3,390
Points
113
Well...I would say the WWE has no idea how to book a proper
babyface anymore & they allow their heels to be too likeable.
That is true. But what is a proper babyface? Maybe the heels are babyfaces. Maybe a babyface is just someone who is good at their job. Cuz fans don't watch as they are watching a tv show, they are watching like they want to direct the tv show. So when they see Miz and KO do good heel work, they respect and like it. That's probably why its so hard to manipulate fans emotion nowadays.
 

Grievous 3D

Is Currently In Stasis
Banned
Joined
Sep 30, 2016
Messages
14,732
Reaction score
10,647
Points
0
Age
42
Location
Townsville, Queensland, Australia
That is true. But what is a proper babyface? Maybe the heels are babyfaces. Maybe a babyface is just someone who is good at their job. Cuz fans don't watch as they are watching a tv show, they are watching like they want to direct the tv show. So when they see Miz and KO do good heel work, they respect and like it. That's probably why its so hard to manipulate fans emotion nowadays.
I think the way to get a babyface over is to pair/feud them with a truly unlikable heel.

Gargano & Ciampa are a perfect example of the best kind of face/heel dynamic...
both are great workers...but Gargano is so likable...and Ciampa such a bastard
you can't help but want to see Johnny Wrestling kick his teeth in.

Hell...it looks like the main roster are going to try this very ploy with Roman & Jinder...
& good luck to them with that.

Give it a month or two & the crowds will be chanting for Jinder...or at least I hope they do.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Redboy123@

Redboy123@

Banned
Joined
Jan 5, 2018
Messages
6,194
Reaction score
3,390
Points
113
I think the way to get a babyface over is to pair/feud them with a truly unlikable heel.
Yes. Heels have always been more interesting than faces. A bland babyface could get over if they are up against a great heel. Just on bases that they want to see the heel get beaten up. I think to have a good face you need a good heel. Batman would not be good without the villains. Batman becomes more and more interesting when he goes up against villains. As we learn more about him.

Nowadays it's hard to find good heels. So that's maybe why there isn't that many great babyfaces. Ciampa is a great heel. So it can be done.
 

Jacob Fox

Quiet You
Joined
Sep 22, 2014
Messages
62,724
Reaction score
14,078
Points
118
I don't think about it in a negative way. People pay the money to go to the event and obviously chanting these things brings them entertainment. Whether they are stupid or not is subjective. Honestly, I love Kurt Angle but one of the most fun moments of my life was Wrestlemania 22, chanting You Suck when he came to the ring.

Getting lost in the energy of a crowd is not a bad thing.
 

Redboy123@

Banned
Joined
Jan 5, 2018
Messages
6,194
Reaction score
3,390
Points
113
Honestly, I love Kurt Angle but one of the most fun moments of my life was Wrestlemania 22, chanting You Suck when he came to the ring.
Thats part of the show. When people chant irrelevant stuff like 'CM Punk' (even though I have no problem with, people can chant what they want) It doesn't add anything to the show. When I watch wrestling, i'm more likely to be into something when the crowd are into it. So from a perspective of me wanting to enjoy the show, I do want the fans to be into the actual show that I am watching. It just makes me like the show better. But you can't get everything that you want. So that to me is negative as its a detriment to the overall quality of the show. But maybe the show isn't good in the first place.