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This will be the place to post all the news or discussion related to the NHL, (well since there is a Lockout right now the lack of hockey)
 

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I support the Philadelphia Flyers, I've never really watched Hockey much but I've always kept an eye out for the Flyers results.
 

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Well MKT we have some Rivalry going on Since I am in the land of the Penguins. I don't watch much hockey as I can't really get into it but I follow enough of what is going on with them. Still wished they could have kept Stahl, but I understand what they did and hopefully the players they received for him will be enough help for the team if there is a season.

Considering Bettman is giving the NHLPA til Thursday to sign the agreeement or he cancels the season. Fehr better not let the season get canceled.
 

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The LOCKOUT is over. Get the skates out. Looks like a 48 game season. Which one will make it to the end.

NEW YORK -- NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and NHL Players' Association executive director Donald Fehr stood side by side in the early hours of Sunday morning to announce there was a framework in place for a new collective bargaining agreement.

Although the deal still requires language clarification, legal fine-tuning and ratification from both sides, a verbal agreement has been reached on the major points that will end the lengthy lockout.

"We still have a lot of work to do," Bettman said, "but it's good to be at this point."

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The deal still requires majority approval from the board of governors, who will meet Wednesday, when the 30 owners will vote on the new agreement with players.

The tentative agreement is a 10-year deal with a mutual opt-out clause after eight years and includes contract term limits at seven years (eight years for a team to re-sign its own players), a source confirmed to ESPNNewYork.com.

"I am happy deal has been reached and excited to get back to playing hockey," Penguins star Sidney Crosby said in an email.

For the first year, the salary cap is $60 million, but teams can spend up to $70.2 million in the transition period, while the floor is $44 million.

Sources said the 2013-14 salary cap, a very divisive issue, will be $64.3 million, while the floor will remain at $44 million.

Contract salary variance is capped at 35 percent from year to year, with the provision that the last year can't vary more than 50 percent from the highest-salaried year, a source told ESPN.com.

Revenue sharing will spread $200 million, with a $60 million NHLPA-initiated growth fund included.

The NHL had hoped to change the opening of free agency to July 10, but the players stood firm and it will remain July 1, although it will start later this year due to the delayed season. Regardless of the season's start date, the league at this point is suggesting April 5 for the trade deadline, a source told ESPN. The NHLPA has not agreed to that date yet.

Olympic participation will not be part of this agreement. The two parties will work on a side agreement regarding the Olympics and possibly the World Cup of Hockey.

Veteran forward Shane Doan said the players knew it would be concessionary bargaining from the beginning, but was satisfied with the agreed-upon terms.

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"You knew you were in that position, and I think as a union we got the best deal we could possibly get, and you're happy," he said. "You're just excited to play hockey again and do what you really enjoy and have a passion for."

Word of the agreement came after the two sides hashed out their remaining differences for more than 16 hours at a hotel in midtown Manhattan. It was the lengthiest negotiating session and latest night of a lockout that has lasted 113 days.

George H. Cohen, director of the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, issued a statement congratulating the NHL and NHLPA.

"The negotiated agreement represents the successful culmination of a long and difficult road in which the parties ultimately were able to reach mutually acceptable solutions to a wide variety of contentious subjects of bargaining," he said.

Bettman did not have details on a timeline for ratification or a potential schedule for the opening of the regular season. It is believed the sides are aiming for either a 48- or 50-game season depending on how quickly things get done. Sources told ESPN.com that a 50-game season would start Jan. 15, while a 48-game season would start Jan. 19.

The league sent out a memo Sunday night saying that Jan. 19 was the probable option for opening night, but that if the ratification process progresses quickly, Jan. 15 still would be in play.

Fehr said he hoped the next steps could be accomplished "fairly rapidly" and with "dispatch."

"We'll get back to what we used to call business as usual just as fast as we can," he said.

Both sides are committed to playing as many games as possible, even if it requires starting the season midweek, multiple sources told ESPN.com.

The Stanley Cup playoffs are expected to stretch into the end of June to account for the delayed start and compressed season.

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The last stumbling blocks between the two sides -- Year 2 salary cap, contract term limits, variance and length of the CBA -- were resolved with the help of federal mediator Scot L. Beckenbaugh, who assisted in negotiations twice previously and might now go down as the hero of this lockout.

When talks went sideways after a lengthy face-to-face session Wednesday, Beckenbaugh diffused the tension by meeting with both sides separately Thursday and Friday. Those lengthy sessions appeared to have produced enough progress to bring the league and union back together Saturday morning for their first in-person meeting since Thursday.

Winnipeg defenseman Ron Hainsey, one of the NHLPA's most active participants in negotiations, said Beckenbaugh's assistance was crucial.

"There was a way to work your ideas through a third party, who was able to really help the process," Hainsey said.

The two sides also reignited negotiations with an ominous deadline looming. The NHLPA's 48-hour window to vote on reauthorizing the union's executive board the right to file a disclaimer of interest expired at 6 p.m. ET, providing the union the hammer to disband should negotiations go south.

The players chose not to go down that road with a deal in sight, however, just as they did earlier in the week when Fehr spurned the opportunity to file a disclaimer Wednesday night.

Before a deal was struck, the league had canceled all regular-season games through Jan. 14. The 2012-13 work stoppage marked the third lockout under Bettman's tenure.

The negotiating process -- which began in June but intensified when the league submitted its first proposal July 13 (one the players found almost universally insulting) -- has been marked by episodes of mistrust, missteps and a significant amount of enmity between the sides.

There were times players felt disrespected and underestimated, and that their willingness to make concessions went unreciprocated.

On the flip side, the NHL was quick to express, both outright and through back-channel avenues, its lack of trust for Fehr and what it felt were his "negotiating tactics."

Instead of leading both the NHL and NHLPA down the path of mutually assured destruction, however, the toxicity abated as the window narrowed on time left to salvage the season.

"We got through it," Doan said. "The emotion of it, you kind of ride the roller coaster of it up and down, but you kind of sense things were going in the right direction and you want to make sure they kept going in the right direction."

After the marathon negotiating session ended, there seemed to be a convivial spirit between the two sides. Chris Campoli, who got into a heated clash with owner Craig Leipold back in November, was seen talking with Bettman, while deputy commissioner Bill Daly and NHLPA special counsel Steve Fehr shared some words as well.

Should the deal become official, the league will play a truncated season similar to 1994-95, when a lockout resulted in a 48-game schedule.

Said Doan: "Everyone's obviously relieved it's over and done with, for all intents and purposes, and we're able to kind of move on to what we all enjoy doing a lot more than this."


This is crap is done, but they now have a 10 year agreement.

LETS go Pens
 

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Took them long enough. My interest in hockey is at an all time low, but at the same time I'm sure I'll be going to a few Leaf games with clients so I can't complain too much.
 

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Not sure how things will play out but I do know that the players the Pens have including Sidney Crosby that didn't go to Europe or Russia to play during the lockout have been practicing together for 2-4 hours a day. Not sure how the rest of the league has been doing but I think this lockout could have been avoided from day one.

Who do we see prevailing in this shortened season?
 

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The last time there was a lockout-shortened season, defense was a key to the success of most teams. So I will say one thing. Even though I am not a huge fan of them, this is St. Louis' year to win. They have the best defense in recent years and I believe they have what it takes to win it all.
 

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Defense became the way hope we don't get more of that crap the Lightning was doing last year where they basically stood still and didn't move. Glad that Philly called them out on it.
 

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Last Week: NR No Anze Kopitar and no Willie Mitchell early in camp, and all eyes will be on Jonathan Quick as he returns from offseason back surgery. Still, the boys with the rings are the ones to beat until they tell us otherwise.
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New York
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Last Week: NR They might not be the consensus pick to come out of the Eastern Conference, but many observers believe that the Rangers with Rick Nash in the lineup will be the ones hoisting the Stanley Cup in June.
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St. Louis
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Last Week: NR This is our Stanley Cup pick. Well-coached, deep up and down the lineup and exceptional in goal, the Blues will be looking to prove that last season's Central Division title was just a step on the way to their first championship.
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Pittsburgh
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Last Week: NR Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, James Neal, Kris Letang and a fine supporting cast make the Pens as dangerous a team as there is in the league. Can the defense and goaltending hold up? We have the Pens going to the finals.
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Boston
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Last Week: NR Tuukka Rask and Anton Khudobin will face loads of pressure, but the Bruins will again ice a big, talented lineup. Watch for Tyler Seguin to take another big step forward.
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Phoenix
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Last Week: NR Head coach Dave Tippett thinks this Coyotes team might be better than the one that went to the Western Conference finals last spring. He might be right.
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Minnesota
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Last Week: NR OK, we buy the buzz. Zach Parise and Ryan Suter will have lots of help in Minnesota, and as long as the goaltending holds up, the Wild could end up on top of a wide-open Northwestern Division.
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Vancouver
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Last Week: NR Ryan Kesler's ongoing injury issues mean the Canucks are thin down the middle, and there remains the issue of what will happen to Roberto Luongo. Still a threat in the West, though.
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Philadelphia
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Last Week: NR Without Chris Pronger, the Flyers might not be as formidable as they were a couple of years ago. But deep and skilled up front, the Flyers still look like a lock to make the playoffs.
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Florida
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Last Week: NR The Southeast Division might end up being the closest of the six divisions, but we still give the nod to its defending champs. The Panthers need to sort out injury issues and get Dmitry Kulikov signed, but there's lots to like. Keep an eye on rookie Jonathan Huberdeau.
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Chicago
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Last Week: NR Netminder Corey Crawford has to prove he is better than he showed in the playoffs against Phoenix, but the Hawks remain blessed with talent up and down the lineup and a core that knows how to win. A slow start will not, however, do much for Joel Quenneville's job security.
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Washington
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Last Week: NR We expect big things from Adam Oates behind the Caps' bench, and Nicklas Backstrom's insistence that he is healthy and ready to go is a huge bonus. Interesting battle shaping up in goal between Michal Neuvirth and playoff hero Braden Holtby.
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Carolina
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Last Week: NR Jordan Staal and Alex Semin will boost the offense, and Kirk Muller has laid a nice foundation after taking over as head coach a little more than a year ago. The playoffs are imperative for a team that has missed three times since advancing to the 2009 Eastern Conference finals.
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Anaheim
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Last Week: NR The Ducks found a groove under coach Bruce Boudreau, who replaced Randy Carlyle, but fell short of the playoffs. No excuses this season. Management must deal quickly with the contract issues of Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf.
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Colorado
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Last Week: NR If the Avs resolve the Ryan O'Reilly contract issue ASAP, they could be poised to sneak into the playoffs. Semyon Varlamov needs another strong season to prove his durability and status as No. 1 goaltending material.
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Tampa Bay
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Last Week: NR All eyes are on Anders Lindback as he tries to prove he has the goods to be a No. 1. The Lightning should be much better on the back end with Sami Salo and Matt Carle in town. Steven Stamkos should again be among the league's most dominant offensive players.
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Nashville
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Last Week: NR No Ryan Suter means the Predators will be looking from within to shore up their blue line and produce enough offense to see them back to the playoffs for the eighth time in the past nine seasons.
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Ottawa
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Last Week: NR The surprise trip to the playoffs last season will be a tough act to follow, as will an equally surprising Norris Trophy win for dynamic blueliner Erik Karlsson. Still, they hit the jackpot with Paul MacLean, a finalist for coach of the year.
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Detroit
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Last Week: NR The departures of Nicklas Lidstrom and Brad Stuart have created a huge void on the blue line. Can Damien Brunner make the jump from the Swiss league? More to the point, is this the season the Wings finally tumble out of the playoffs?
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Dallas
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Last Week: NR The Stars have to get Jamie Benn under contract but otherwise look like they've addressed issues with offense and -- they hope -- the power play by adding Ray Whitney, Jaromir Jagr and Derek Roy.
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New Jersey
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Last Week: NR Never count out the Devils, but the absence of Zach Parise looms large. Martin Brodeur (40) and Johan Hedberg (39) have experience but did not play during the lockout. How does a reluctant Ilya Kovalchuk fit in? Adam Henrique needs to build on his impressive rookie campaign.
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Buffalo
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Last Week: NR Ryan Miller will look to lead the Sabres back to the playoffs after a disappointing turn last season. Steve Ott is in and Derek Roy is out as the Sabres look to redefine their image.
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San Jose
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Last Week: NR The Sharks will return pretty much the same lineup that limped into the playoffs as the seventh seed and was ousted in five games by St. Louis. We're not sold on the goaltending, and someone needs to drag this team back into contention.
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Edmonton
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Last Week: NR Everyone's post-lockout darlings are hoping that hot starts by a clutch of young players at the AHL level during the lockout will translate into a hot start in the NHL. Goaltending is still a question mark. It will be interesting to see how free-agent sensation Justin Schultz does after lighting up the AHL.
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Montreal
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Last Week: NR We applaud the hirings of GM Marc Bergevin and head coach Michel Therrien. It was high time Therrien got to coach another team. But he has his hands full, especially with P.K. Subban still without a contract.
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Calgary
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Last Week: NR The Flames have insisted that no one ask Jarome Iginla about his contract status again. Ha, ha. Oh, seriously? The best way for that to happen is to win a bunch of games out of the gate.
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New York
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Last Week: NR Lots of moving pieces up front, but to have an outside shot at a playoff berth, the Isles need to get reluctant defender Lubomir Visnovsky back from Europe and Evgeni Nabokov back to his former self.
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Winnipeg
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Last Week: NR The Jets need to learn to win away from the raucous MTS Centre, and they need to find out what kind of character is in Evander Kane, Dustin Byfuglien and Ondrej Pavelec.
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Toronto
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Last Week: NR Firing your GM a week before the start of the regular season doesn't help your continuity or consistency. The Leafs are thin down the middle, and goaltending is still a mystery. Playoff misery is likely to extend into the second post-lockout era.
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Columbus
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Last Week: NR Maybe the Blue Jackets can avoid the miserable start that doomed last season from the get-go, but they're still not a very good team in a very tough conference. Long road ahead for new president John Davidson.



Alright first power ranking is out. Who do you think will win the cup now that we have some hockey getting started.
 

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Dallas Stars captain Brenden Morrow has decided to waive his no-trade clause and agreed to join the Pittsburgh Penguins in a trade.

In the trade, Pittsburgh gets Morrow and a third-round pick in 2013, while Dallas gets prospect defenseman Joe Morrow and a fifth-round pick in 2013.

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If you don't swing, you don't hit. And Penguins GM Ray Shero was at it again on Sunday, setting the pace ahead of the April 3 trade deadline by acquiring pending unrestricted free agent Brenden Morrow, writes Scott Burnside. Story

Joe Morrow was the 23rd overall pick by the Penguins in 2011. He is not related to Brenden.

Brenden Morrow, 34, is slated for unrestricted free agency in July. He's played his entire NHL career with the Stars since breaking into the league in 1999-2000.

"Brenden Morrow has represented everything we could ever ask for in a Dallas Star over the past 14 years, giving his heart and soul to this franchise. On behalf of the entire Dallas Stars organization, we wish Brenden nothing but the best going forward and thank him sincerely for his years of service," said Dallas Stars general manager Joe Nieuwendyk in a release. "That being said, we had a great opportunity to acquire a young top-end defenseman in Joe Morrow and we are delighted to add him to our organization. We identified Joe as an outstanding prospect and a target for acquisition if ever available, and we feel he can solidify our blue line for the foreseeable future."

The Bruins had also shown interest in Morrow, a source told ESPN.com.

Morrow for years was one of the NHL's premier power forwards, putting up a career-high 33 goals just two years ago in 2010-11 when he also played for gold medal-winning Canada at the Vancouver Olympics.

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But over the past two years he's been slowed down by injuries. He's got six goals and five assists in 23 games this season and while he's not quite the same player he was before, he remains a quality character player who will bring experience, skill and toughness to the Penguins' lineup.

The Penguins are hoping to pair Morrow with former Dallas teammate James Neal and reigning NHL MVP Evgeni Malkin on the team's second line. Malkin remains out with an upper body injury but could return later this week.

Morrow is scheduled to arrive in Pittsburgh on Monday afternoon and could play as early as Tuesday night when the Penguins host Montreal. Penguins GM Ray Shero said Morrow's veteran savvy and physical presence around the net will be a welcome addition.

"He's a guy that goes to those dirty areas and as you know when you get in the playoffs we know that's an important aspect of what we're trying to do," Shero said.

Morrow also has experience playing with Sidney Crosby and Pittsburgh goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury as part of Team Canada's run to gold in Vancouver.

The trade came at a significant price. Joe Morrow was considered one of Pittsburgh's top prospects and Shero called him a player who will be "in the NHL a long time."


so the Pens just got stronger and potentially just picked up a rental guy but He could help them on to the Stanley cup.
 

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Penguins make another deal picking up Douglas Murray from San Jose for two draft picks. Stronger again [MENTION=51]Fuji Vice[/MENTION] if they can gel they will he very tough to beat now.
 
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Jarome Iginla traded to the Penguins. This puts me in an uncomfortable position because I hate the fucking Penguins but I love Iginla and would be happy to see him win a cup.

Fuck.
 

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Jarome Iginla traded to the Penguins. This puts me in an uncomfortable position because I hate the fucking Penguins but I love Iginla and would be happy to see him win a cup.

Fuck.


Are you sure he went to the Pens. I saw that he went to the Bruins


Edit: you are correct and I think as long as the new guys gel with the old guys they will definitely be the team to beat.
 

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Yeah they swooped in and snatched him from the mouth of the Bruins and btw if Fuji posts something he is sure about it he is a stickler for posting confirmed news
 

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Yeah they swooped in and snatched him from the mouth of the Bruins and btw if Fuji posts something he is sure about it he is a stickler for posting confirmed news

I was only asking because I live by Pittsburgh and didn't hear that and wanted to make sure.